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Loved this episode and the conversation! I could have listened for hours :) There are so many bits and pieces that hit a nerve and it'll take some solitude to sort these reactions out and see what might come of them.

"It's better to be scared than to be bored" - I never phrased it like that, but it explains so well how I've been moving through the world. Thank you! 🫶🏻

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I absolutely loved this conversation Emma, from Jenn's first response to your hard question :) I loved the bit on the discomfort of writing - I have many thoughts! Plus I must dust down my copy of Drinking A love Story - I read it when it came out and it sounds like it has stood the test of time and inspired other memoirs about our addiction culture.

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I enjoyed this so much, Emma! Thank you for the chat with Jenn—I was not familiar with her

and am so excited to now go and explore her work. Two things that really stood out for me: when you said “she’s so full of herself” is meant as an insult but actually it’s gorgeous to see a woman full of her Self; and when Jenn said “you can’t be seen when you’re hiding”. Wisdom!

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